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Location: roseville, oh 43777 | It sure seems like something is going on......I actually think if she had gotten a fair shake last time things would go a lot better for her.
And must say she spiced up McCain's bid.
Have you heard the latest how they now have evidence where the liberal media aimed to discredit her.....which to most of us knew that is what they were doing.
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Location: centrally located umungst the "nuts" | Not my typical "thought-out" response.
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| I not only read the article but many of the comments too. There surely is not a good enough showing of support, at least from the feedback, for her to be considered a serious candidate for 2012.
The goal of 2012 is to change the direction this country is heading, and although I do believe Sarah Palin makes a very good cheerleader for change, it is MY opinion that we must find that candidate that can really make true change and more importantly, WIN the 2012 election!
Ms. Palin comes with too much baggage. She will have to spend most of her campaign defending past choices she has made instead of being able to stay "on target" for the future of these United States.
The less baggage our candidate of choice comes with means less time the opposition can direct attention away from the real issue's for America's salvation. Having a squeaky clean past history, as well as image, is more important than ever for 2012.
I know, many will disagree with me, but a "past history" is akin to blood in the water of a bunch of hungry sharks! The opposition will rib her past record to pieces, and that's a fact!!!
So, it comes down to, for me at least, do I want to make a statement of support for her, or do I want to see America have a real chance at putting us back on the right track? For me, the choice is an easy one. The salvation of the United States far out weighs the importance of placing my support behind a candidate that at least in my mind will have a very difficult time winning the White House in 2012.
O.K., flame suit is on, but before you flame, really,really think about what the democratic party will do to her campaign, once she announces. They will rip her history to pieces. Is that what you really want this election to be about? I don't!!!! I want a candidate that will provide the opposition as little fuel as possible to direct attention away from what is the issue's really are, the future of these United States for my grand-children!!! grandpawjohn
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Location: Online | I agree with you GPJ. But the Dems and the media will dig up everything on any of the Republican candidates. They will fall all over themselves to rehash all of Newt's skeletons - that we already know about - if he throws his hat in the ring. 
While I like the message that Sarah is trying to get out there, I just don't think she's Presidential material. I think she would be great in a supporting role of some kind, but not actual President. | |
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Location: centrally located umungst the "nuts" | GRANDPAWJOHN - 7/23/2010 8:42 AM
I not only read the article but many of the comments too. There surely is not a good enough showing of support, at least from the feedback, for her to be considered a serious candidate for 2012.
The goal of 2012 is to change the direction this country is heading, and although I do believe Sarah Palin makes a very good cheerleader for change, it is MY opinion that we must find that candidate that can really make true change and more importantly, WIN the 2012 election!
Ms. Palin comes with too much baggage. She will have to spend most of her campaign defending past choices she has made instead of being able to stay "on target" for the future of these United States.
The less baggage our candidate of choice comes with means less time the opposition can direct attention away from the real issue's for America's salvation. Having a squeaky clean past history, as well as image, is more important than ever for 2012.
I know, many will disagree with me, but a "past history" is akin to blood in the water of a bunch of hungry sharks! The opposition will rib her past record to pieces, and that's a fact!!!
So, it comes down to, for me at least, do I want to make a statement of support for her, or do I want to see America have a real chance at putting us back on the right track? For me, the choice is an easy one. The salvation of the United States far out weighs the importance of placing my support behind a candidate that at least in my mind will have a very difficult time winning the White House in 2012.
O.K., flame suit is on, but before you flame, really,really think about what the democratic party will do to her campaign, once she announces. They will rip her history to pieces. Is that what you really want this election to be about? I don't!!!! I want a candidate that will provide the opposition as little fuel as possible to direct attention away from what is the issue's really are, the future of these United States for my grand-children!!! grandpawjohn
Along with this reality, the conservative base needs to hold "our" "parties" feet to the fire and not allow the RINO's toss out every viable candidate with a slight whimpering of the media(demacrats). "We" have tossed a few good people to the wolves by allowing the Dems to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Sorry for so many quotation marks, but being a Republican is about 4th on the list for me. | |
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Location: Free Republic of Texas (for now) | paracadista - 7/23/2010 5:28 PM GRANDPAWJOHN - 7/23/2010 8:42 AM I not only read the article but many of the comments too. There surely is not a good enough showing of support, at least from the feedback, for her to be considered a serious candidate for 2012.
The goal of 2012 is to change the direction this country is heading, and although I do believe Sarah Palin makes a very good cheerleader for change, it is MY opinion that we must find that candidate that can really make true change and more importantly, WIN the 2012 election!
Ms. Palin comes with too much baggage. She will have to spend most of her campaign defending past choices she has made instead of being able to stay "on target" for the future of these United States.
The less baggage our candidate of choice comes with means less time the opposition can direct attention away from the real issue's for America's salvation. Having a squeaky clean past history, as well as image, is more important than ever for 2012.
I know, many will disagree with me, but a "past history" is akin to blood in the water of a bunch of hungry sharks! The opposition will rib her past record to pieces, and that's a fact!!!
So, it comes down to, for me at least, do I want to make a statement of support for her, or do I want to see America have a real chance at putting us back on the right track? For me, the choice is an easy one. The salvation of the United States far out weighs the importance of placing my support behind a candidate that at least in my mind will have a very difficult time winning the White House in 2012.
O.K., flame suit is on, but before you flame, really,really think about what the democratic party will do to her campaign, once she announces. They will rip her history to pieces. Is that what you really want this election to be about? I don't!!!! I want a candidate that will provide the opposition as little fuel as possible to direct attention away from what is the issue's really are, the future of these United States for my grand-children!!! grandpawjohn
Along with this reality, the conservative base needs to hold "our" "parties" feet to the fire and not allow the RINO's toss out every viable candidate with a slight whimpering of the media (demacrats ). "We" have tossed a few good people to the wolves by allowing the Dems to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Sorry for so many quotation marks, but being a Republican is about 4th on the list for me.
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Location: roseville, oh 43777 | GRANDPAWJOHN - 7/23/2010 8:42 AM I not only read the article but many of the comments too. There surely is not a good enough showing of support, at least from the feedback, for her to be considered a serious candidate for 2012.
The goal of 2012 is to change the direction this country is heading, and although I do believe Sarah Palin makes a very good cheerleader for change, it is MY opinion that we must find that candidate that can really make true change and more importantly, WIN the 2012 election!
Ms. Palin comes with too much baggage. She will have to spend most of her campaign defending past choices she has made instead of being able to stay "on target" for the future of these United States.
The less baggage our candidate of choice comes with means less time the opposition can direct attention away from the real issue's for America's salvation. Having a squeaky clean past history, as well as image, is more important than ever for 2012.
I know, many will disagree with me, but a "past history" is akin to blood in the water of a bunch of hungry sharks! The opposition will rib her past record to pieces, and that's a fact!!!
So, it comes down to, for me at least, do I want to make a statement of support for her, or do I want to see America have a real chance at putting us back on the right track? For me, the choice is an easy one. The salvation of the United States far out weighs the importance of placing my support behind a candidate that at least in my mind will have a very difficult time winning the White House in 2012.
O.K., flame suit is on, but before you flame, really,really think about what the democratic party will do to her campaign, once she announces. They will rip her history to pieces. Is that what you really want this election to be about? I don't!!!! I want a candidate that will provide the opposition as little fuel as possible to direct attention away from what is the issue's really are, the future of these United States for my grand-children!!! grandpawjohn
Sad fact is "we" let the media elect our officials.....from Saturday Night Live, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC.....
Obama had plenty baggage but we choose not to listen...but you had to listen to Fox or talk radio...sorry to say but the handwriting was on the wall with Obama......he has not done anything yet to surprise me......
So now because of the "media" again "we" choose not to think Sarah Palin would be a good candidate.
Sure she does not have all the freaking experience we all talk about....or so we are told....what the heck did Obama have...nothing but the main stream media on his side......and he was a community organizer...
And they have already ripped her to pieces.....and she sure keeps on......she sure as hell has handled it better than any others.......maybe some others in the party should take note........when it is dished out fight back instead of running for cover.....
Sad to say that is most of the Republicans right now.
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| As an effort to make my point I think YOU just did it with that last statement.
"When it is dished out, stand and fight instead of running for cover"
When she quit as Gov. of Alaska, they, the democratic party. will get as much mileage from this as possible, directing attention away from the issue's!! Therefore, allowing them, the democrats to avoid having to address the REAL ISSUE'S that our country now faces.
I did NOT say it was fair for her, or the right thing for the opposition to do, it's just the way politics is played out. Sling mud in the direction of the opposition, and in doing so, avoid having to confront the issue's head on!!!!!!!!!!!
Ms. Palin offer's them, the opposition with plenty of mud for them to sling. 2012 is NOT the time to get into a *&#*ing contest with them.
Example; How would YOU feel about supporting the now Gov. of Arizona, in a run for a national office if SHE, now of all times, quit?? Would you not feel as though she too, tucked tail and ran from a good fight when things were just getting hot for HER?
Ms. Palin has not even begun to taste the rath of a national level campaign. It would be MUCH better for US and HER to settle back into a supportive roll for 2012. Then, we ALL know, there WILL BE a cabinet position for her in a "new" administration! Thus providing her with much needed international experience for the future in MY opinion AND the dust of the past to settle.
In the 2012 elections, are we more concerned about the political future for Ms. Palin, or are we really wanting to change the direction of these United States for our children and grand-children?
That's an easy question for ME to answer, I want change, REAL CHANGE, and ousting an incumbent is NOT an easy thing to do, period!! So, for ME at least, give me a candidate who's nose is so clean, it doesn't even run when he or she has a cold. grandpawjohn
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Location: roseville, oh 43777 | I reckon I did not view her quitting the governors job such a big deal....now quite a few did and still do.....nor do I see it comparable to what the AZ governor is doing or trying to accompli se.
In the 2008 elections changed was voted in...I still do not see how folks did not see what Obama was all about......sorry but JMO..........
I really don't know where we are going to get real change...
Now do I want her for President.......well if I had to compare her to the idiot we have now....well she could not do worse........JMO also.....
My pick in 2008 was Mitt Romeny....he has business knowledge......
Right now it looks like Newt may run.........I like Newt but he has lots of baggage as well........
But then again......no matter who the conservatives choose the left wing media is going to pick them..tar them.......in hopes of there messiah staying in office. | |
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Location: Free Republic of Texas (for now) | CJE - 7/27/2010 1:01 PM I reckon I did not view her quitting the governors job such a big deal....now quite a few did and still do.....nor do I see it comparable to what the AZ governor is doing or trying to accompli se.
In the 2008 elections changed was voted in...I still do not see how folks did not see what Obama was all about......sorry but JMO..........
I really don't know where we are going to get real change...
Now do I want her for President.......well if I had to compare her to the idiot we have now....well she could not do worse........JMO also.....
My pick in 2008 was Mitt Romeny....he has business knowledge......
Right now it looks like Newt may run.........I like Newt but he has lots of baggage as well........
But then again......no matter who the conservatives choose the left wing media is going to pick them..tar them.......in hopes of there messiah staying in office.
I agree Newt has mucho baggage! Now research Newt's views on Global Warming and Cap 'n Tax......................
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Location: MOLON LABE | I think it's all a huge distraction and she's just a pretty face for another distraction. It's my hope that this Sarah Palin phenomenon will fizzle and go by the wayside. This is all just opportunistic politization of a critical time in this country. This misguided phenomenon only serves to redirect focus when the easily distracted latter day version of "we the people" enter the closing days on the path to bondage on the Tytler circle. When we need a laser sharp focus on liberty, Sarah Palin must giver her endorsement of support despite her abysmal record of supporting and standing with those that ought to be voted out.
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Location: roseville, oh 43777 | Sad fact is there does not seem to be anyone she is distracting from........here is a long shot Governor Chris Christie...
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Location: Arizona | I read most of all the opinions left here so I think now I can give mine.
Pure genius. She has masterfully set the pieces in place... her endorsements are gold to a candidate hopeful. Once the players are in, its easy to later expect loyalty when payback time comes in 2012. Of course she will announce her candidacy.. and her nomination will be easy. But the brilliant move she will make that will put her over the top is her VP choice. Right now nobody is better prepared to compliment her than Jan Brewer.
Love her, hate her,,, doesn't matter... She will be the choice left standing. She has put herself in favor with the Tea Party loyalist, the Christian base, and now she is gaining popularity with the Independents. If the doubters would quit debating why she quit her job as Gov. (which she explained) and start listening to the woman... and If Obamao continues to thumb his nose at the constitution this will be a walk in the park for Palin. | |
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Location: centrally located umungst the "nuts" | RidenFly - 7/30/2010 8:43 PM
I read most of all the opinions left here so I think now I can give mine.
Pure genius. She has masterfully set the pieces in place... her endorsements are gold to a candidate hopeful. Once the players are in, its easy to later expect loyalty when payback time comes in 2012. Of course she will announce her candidacy.. and her nomination will be easy. But the brilliant move she will make that will put her over the top is her VP choice. Right now nobody is better prepared to compliment her than Jan Brewer.
Love her, hate her,,, doesn't matter... She will be the choice left standing. She has put herself in favor with the Tea Party loyalist, the Christian base, and now she is gaining popularity with the Independents. If the doubters would quit debating why she quit her job as Gov. (which she explained) and start listening to the woman... and If Obamao continues to thumb his nose at the constitution this will be a walk in the park for Palin.
I'm sorry, I just dont have my Sarah blinders on yet. She seems , to me, better sooted to be the Chairman of the RNC. I have heard little in her speeches that go passed a sound byte regurgitation/pep rally result. I guess there are two ways to look at it, either that is what it amounts to for me or I am just not smart enought to get what she is saying exactly. | |
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Location: Arizona | paracadista - 8/1/2010 6:34 AM RidenFly - 7/30/2010 8:43 PM I read most of all the opinions left here so I think now I can give mine.
Pure genius. She has masterfully set the pieces in place... her endorsements are gold to a candidate hopeful. Once the players are in, its easy to later expect loyalty when payback time comes in 2012. Of course she will announce her candidacy.. and her nomination will be easy. But the brilliant move she will make that will put her over the top is her VP choice. Right now nobody is better prepared to compliment her than Jan Brewer.
Love her, hate her,,, doesn't matter... She will be the choice left standing. She has put herself in favor with the Tea Party loyalist, the Christian base, and now she is gaining popularity with the Independents. If the doubters would quit debating why she quit her job as Gov. (which she explained) and start listening to the woman... and If Obamao continues to thumb his nose at the constitution this will be a walk in the park for Palin.
I'm sorry, I just dont have my Sarah blinders on yet. She seems , to me, better sooted to be the Chairman of the RNC. I have heard little in her speeches that go passed a sound byte regurgitation/pep rally result. I guess there are two ways to look at it, either that is what it amounts to for me or I am just not smart enought to get what she is saying exactly.
LOL nope, your hearing her correct. Right now all she is at liberty to do is be the GOP cheerleader. Think about the reasons why and then you'll understand that when the time comes to run there will be a sound platform. Why show your cards before the game even begins? | |
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Location: Arizona | This came out today. Aug 1st. It reinforces my opinion http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100801/ap_on_el_pr/us_palin
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